I don’t support crime and or criminals; the war in Iraq is a crime committed by the USA government and every Official in WDC is a criminal.

Allan

I have reason to believe that the war in Iraq wasn't the best choice, but it wasn't the worst either. Once we start something we can't back out. We are America we are the number 1 world power not including the Chinese and the Russians. We can liberate Iraq and we will.

We have entered this war and we shouldn't back out. If there is a forest fire will you just control half of the fire?? No you douse the whole thing so you stop it from causing destruction. The Iraqis have different beliefs and so do we. We must explain to them that we don't want to invade their country but protect it.

To get the correct anwser you need to ask the correct question. The correct question is does the United States deserve to win the war in Iraq? The war in Iraq is a disgrace, and an abomination in the eyes of God. It is unjust because it was not in self defense, it was not a last resort, and it had no reasonable chance of success. It is immoral because it was based upon nothing but lies. No massive arsenal of WMD, no connection between Bin Laden and Hussien, and no reconstituted Iraqi nuclear weapons program. Finally , it is illegal because it was not declared by Congress as required by the Constitution. In justice, the very least that should happen to the United States Government is that it should lose this war.

kudos to you ms. America your the one in this thread that has shown any knowledge of RECENT events in iraq and CURRENT positions of our leaders. good to see someones actually paying attention and not just repeating something they heard 6 months ago

good to see you have such a rational opinion!

really? did god tell you this?

One question -

if the US "looses" the Iraq War, who else looses?

One could also argue that the Iraq War has been over for a long time, and the US led coaliton won it.

What we have now some UN supporters would call a "police" action against various fanatical and terrorist organizatons both from within and without Iraq.

Recently, the US media has been reluctant to show that the troop surge and efforts in Iraq are being successful. In my opinion, the Iraqi people are the ones who are on the verge of winning, and that would be the best possible outcome. The more they win, the quicker our troops will come home.

I'm for that.

Having served in Iraq during the opening stages of Operation Iraqi Freedom my opinion is fairly biased. That being said, I do believe that the war in Iraq was a necessary evil. Islamofacism in all its various forms must be confronted and destroyed. On 9/11 we experienced the effects of ignoring terrorism and the ideology behind it. There were 23 seperate reasons for America to attack and destroy the Hussien Regime. Congress read all of them and in turn voted to approve military action in Iraq.

Were mistakes made, yes aboslutely. Did the Admin and the Pentagon expect the Al Qaeda fueled insurgency, probably not. But that is the situation we now find ourselves in. We can not allow the Islamists to force us out, we can not bow to their tactics, and we can not leave the good Iraqi people to suffer under the extremists terror and intolerance.

Things are getting better in Iraq everyday. We are making headway, slowly but surely. Last weekend I attended a party for a family friend who volunteered to go to Iraq from retirement. He spoke very highly of Gen Petreas and his stragtegy for success. He said that things are going unbelievably well. Violence is down, civilian deaths are down and most importantly our troops deaths are down. We have to steel our resolve and allow our fine young men and women to complete the mission at hand.

Semper Fi

This post has been edited by 0331gunner: Nov 29 2007, 11:52 AM

If any war necessary Congress should “Declare War” as the Law, Constitution, calls for.

The Constitution:

Section 8

Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To …


Clause 11. To declare War,

And, Congress cannot delegate its constitutionally delegated powers to anyone else or any other entity.

Allan

Relluctanly, it appears, even the media is reporting much of this success although it is not highlighted as much as anything negative.

Leading Democrats in congress want to hamper this progress by not funding the troops. Many of them are the same ones who voted to send them there in the first place.

Yet we keep voting these people back in?

Good Day Gunner,

One question. Do you believe that this necessary evil should be fought in arm conflict even if the final result is the lost of the american republic? I know it doesnt seem much but thank you for your service, no one on this planet should doubt that America has the greatest military in this world, and that the volunteer children soldiers are valiant and very courageous. But I suggest that you would find if polled that most of reservist that signed up to be week end warriors during peace time did so, so that they could get an education, not be in a war. Which just thinking about it makes my heart swell with pride, because of the valor they have shown fighting in a war they thought to be just, and makes me so sad that they had to follow leaders, that if you believe gunner that they did not anticipate the insurgency and that Al-Queda would come to Iraq to fight just as now when you tout that the violence is down in Iraq they just left and went to Afghanistan to continue fighting us there.
With All Due Respect!
Jo4Peace

The American Republic cannot be lost or destroyed by any foreign conflict or country. Our demise will come from within, from people who call themselves patriots. People like: Jack Murtha.

Children Soldiers? I am sorry Sir, but there are NO children in the US Armed Forces. The US Armed Forces' ranks are filled with the finest men and women that our country has to offer. Calling them children is both niave and ridiculous. But I do agree, they are very courageous and valiant.

Weekend Warriors? Well, if they joined for College money and College money alone, they most certainly were very niave. Within the contract they signed, they agreed to defend the Constitution of the United States and follow all lawful orders issued by proper authority.

Joe, God Bless you. I don't know where you get your information from or who is telling you how the world is; but I certainly envy your position. Ignorance is bliss, huh Jo? Keep living the simple life.

Semper Fidelis,

Gunner

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Good Day Semper,

I responded to your initial note from the perspective of a mother. I keep up with what's going on with our children soildiers because when I seen them on the screen they look like young people between the ages of 23 to 30 years old, so respectfully sir they look like the american children. My reference to them being interested also in the aspect of 'weekend warriors', was a term I remember from recruitment ads from the military the adventure and the offer of an education. I don't think any of our soildiers are naive they understood that in an event of conflict they were being trained to respond to such threats. My pride comes from the knowledge that when called they went, they understood the call of duty to one's nation to defend against foriegn and domestic foes.
I think patriotism means that one's allegiance is too one's nation and that no one group be allowed to dictate the conditions in which we participate in this republic. I believe the uniqueness of our nation is the fact that we are a Republic whose constitution is designed that the people be converned democratically. It avoids the majority the ability to override the minority and prevents anyone's right to create within our goverenance an oligarchy.
When I spoke before about any one group in this instance those groups are political parties, patriotism means one nation under God for the people of the United States of America, which means by God's very nature covers our citizens rather they are athetist or believe in God and partipate in their religion freely under our constitution. I submit that it is for this ideal that our 'Future' meaning our 'Children Soildiers' stood up to fight for.

So, Gunner thank you for responding to my note and I look forward to reading your views here at Thoughtvent.
With all Due Respect
Jo4Peace