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Religion in USA
Allan
post Nov 30 2007, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (Quietmike @ Nov 30 2007, 04:54 PM) *
Allan - in my experience, there ain't nothing stopping anyone rolling up sleeves and working for themselves...... huh.gif


True, but USA government takes American wages (labor) and funds and arms Israel with them, been doing that for over fifty years. Then check out the Kosher Tax, then tell me Americans are not laboring for Israel.

USA governemnt does not have the authority to tax Americans and give that tax money away to anyone (it is a crime), much less fund and arm a government of an enemy country.

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post Dec 3 2007, 09:44 AM
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Umm...
This says otherwise.
Kosher Tax

I don't know if you're one of these extremist organizations, but I'm sure it would be appreciated if you kept your personal Anti-Semitic beliefs to yourself. Not doing so goes against the forum rules, and I'm sure it is offensive to some users.

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post Dec 3 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Sphinx @ Dec 3 2007, 08:44 AM) *
Umm...
This says otherwise.
Kosher Tax

I don't know if you're one of these extremist organizations, but I'm sure it would be appreciated if you kept your personal Anti-Semitic beliefs to yourself. Not doing so goes against the forum rules, and I'm sure it is offensive to some users.



Well put. Besides, with Jesus himself being a Jew, I don't see how we can call ourselves Christians and be anti-semitic. After all, after Jesus rose from the grave and the gospel was spread, it was told to the Jews first then to us Gentiles (just read the Book of Acts. It chronicles the early church). Paul (who wrote most of the New Testament) would go into the synagogues first then to the general populous of the city or town he was in.

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post Dec 3 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (Sphinx @ Dec 3 2007, 09:44 AM) *
Umm...
This says otherwise.
Kosher Tax

I don't know if you're one of these extremist organizations, but I'm sure it would be appreciated if you kept your personal Anti-Semitic beliefs to yourself. Not doing so goes against the forum rules, and I'm sure it is offensive to some users.


Good for you, Sphinx.

I meant to get back to this the other day, but my mind got side-tracked.

Anyway, even Snopes.com addresses this: The Kosher Nostra.


By the way - Hebrew National Hot Dogs are arguably one of the best and highest quality hot dogs on the market. Although, at 5 to a package while hot dog buns are 8 in a pack still doesn't make sense, it is a problem that we all share.

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post Dec 3 2007, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE
Although, at 5 to a package while hot dog buns are 8 in a pack still doesn't make sense, it is a problem that we all share.



Well, this seems more of a problem from where The Colonel's sitting. I suppose it's okay if you have a family of five that's not very hungry and likes to feed the birds! But the best answer (family of four) would surely be to buy two tins of the hotdogs and have two doubles for the biggest family member, burp! I hope my genius has helped you there JohnWho. cheff.gif






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post Dec 3 2007, 05:37 PM
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post Dec 4 2007, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE (Sphinx @ Dec 3 2007, 08:44 AM) *
Umm...
This says otherwise.
Kosher Tax

I don't know if you're one of these extremist organizations, but I'm sure it would be appreciated if you kept your personal Anti-Semitic beliefs to yourself. Not doing so goes against the forum rules, and I'm sure it is offensive to some users.


The URL is a lie put out by liars as described in John 8: 42 – 47 (Sons of Satan)

http://www.koshertax.com/

http://www.radioislam.org/judaism/kosher.htm

http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standa...question05.html

“The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in America. Examine every item in your cupboards for either the (U) or (K) labels. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing" and when these small symbols are detected, it means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. They will not always be on the front of the package; they may be hidden amid the small print near the label's seam. This cryptic code has to do with a Hebrew "secret," a heist, which illuminates the Jews' power in the United States. The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve," stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K).”

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post Dec 4 2007, 07:38 AM
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Allan, you are using that passage out of context. for the full context.John 8

This chapter contains the account of the adulterous woman that was brought before Jesus to try and trip him up so that the Pharisees could try and trap him. the rest of the chapter is Jesus confronting the people with their sinful nature compared to his holy one as an example and the people accusing him of being possessed by the devil.

You are twisting that passage into an accusation of only the Jews when it applies to all people that are unrepentant and unsaved. It is NOT an excuse for spreading hatred or degradation of the Jews or people that oppose anti-semitism. I cannot in good conscience allow you to do this without responding to this twisting of my Faith (Christianity). I will continue to pray for you to have a change of hart and for God to open your eyes to the real truth.

BTW I have worked in stores that sold Kosher products. They were usually less expensive that the products of the same type sold under a major name brand.

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QUOTE (Seafox14 @ Dec 4 2007, 06:38 AM) *
Allan, you are using that passage out of context. for the full context.John 8

This chapter contains the account of the adulterous woman that was brought before Jesus to try and trip him up so that the Pharisees could try and trap him. the rest of the chapter is Jesus confronting the people with their sinful nature compared to his holy one as an example and the people accusing him of being possessed by the devil.

You are twisting that passage into an accusation of only the Jews when it applies to all people that are unrepentant and unsaved. It is NOT an excuse for spreading hatred or degradation of the Jews or people that oppose anti-semitism. I cannot in good conscience allow you to do this without responding to this twisting of my Faith (Christianity). I will continue to pray for you to have a change of hart and for God to open your eyes to the real truth.

BTW I have worked in stores that sold Kosher products. They were usually less expensive that the products of the same type sold under a major name brand.

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John 8:

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Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and am here; I did not come on my own, but he sent me.
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Why do you not understand what I am saying? Because you cannot bear to hear my word.
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You belong to your father the devil and you willingly carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies.
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But because I speak the truth, you do not believe me.
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Can any of you charge me with sin? If I am telling the truth, why do you not believe me?
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Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not listen, because you do not belong to God."

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post Dec 4 2007, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Allan @ Dec 4 2007, 06:10 AM) *
The URL is a lie put out by liars as described in John 8: 42 – 47 (Sons of Satan)

http://www.koshertax.com/

http://www.radioislam.org/judaism/kosher.htm

http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standa...question05.html

“The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in America. Examine every item in your cupboards for either the (U) or (K) labels. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing" and when these small symbols are detected, it means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. They will not always be on the front of the package; they may be hidden amid the small print near the label's seam. This cryptic code has to do with a Hebrew "secret," a heist, which illuminates the Jews' power in the United States. The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve," stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K).”

Allan


Let me see -

we can choose between 3 websites, 2 of which are racist, anti-jewish, hate filled and the third is a mostly spanish site with an agenda that I can't discern but oddly has one page that is in english

or

the highly respected Wikipedia site (which is scrutinized and changed often to provide accurate information and contains other links on the subject) and the very authoritative Snopes.com website?

I'm going with the authoritative sites rather than the hate-filled ones, as I suspect most folks will.


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post Dec 4 2007, 06:32 PM
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Yes, that's right JohnWho. I don't care much for anti-Semitism.

Churchill warned the Germans before WWII; 'Anti Semitism is good for a start, but it always ends with a very sticky finish'.


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I wonder, is "organised" religion unifying or divisive?

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I would suggest both.
It unifies one group of believers into a sect, but then divides that sect from the commonality from which it came.
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Wow, I had to go to the first page to even find out what was going on here. Apparantly the title should have been Judaism in USA. While it does seem that the state of Isreal is being unconditionally supported by the US, I think that is a separate issue than the religios aspect of Judaism.


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QUOTE (Allan @ Dec 4 2007, 06:10 AM) *
The URL is a lie put out by liars as described in John 8: 42 – 47 (Sons of Satan)

http://www.koshertax.com/

http://www.radioislam.org/judaism/kosher.htm

http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standa...question05.html

“The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in America. Examine every item in your cupboards for either the (U) or (K) labels. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing" and when these small symbols are detected, it means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. They will not always be on the front of the package; they may be hidden amid the small print near the label's seam. This cryptic code has to do with a Hebrew "secret," a heist, which illuminates the Jews' power in the United States. The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve," stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K).”

Allan



Hey Allan, I'll bet your favorite paper is the Spotlight isn't it.
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