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Flying Saucers : Yay or Nay?
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post Nov 30 2007, 02:24 AM
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I would like to know what people think about flying saucers. Are they real? If so, who makes them?


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:30 AM
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If by "flying saucers" you mean Unidentified Flying Objects of Saucer-like Appearance, then until we identify them as "Flying Saucer Shaped Objects" I'm really not that concerned.

However, is it possible that beings from somewhere other than Earth have visited, and maybe are visiting, us?

Yep.

And they probably leave because they haven't found any intelligent life-forms here.

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post Nov 30 2007, 04:01 PM
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Not really sure the difference between flying saucers and "flying saucer shaped objects". For that matter I'm not sure the difference between either of those and "Unidentified Flying Objects of Saucer-like Appearance". It all sounds the same to me.


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post Nov 30 2007, 04:19 PM
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Ah, I understand your confusion with my cryptic words.

I should have kept it simple - if it is an "unidentified" anything, then by definition we really don't know what it is.

Once it is identified, and it is identified as "not from this world", then I'll be concerned.

I suppose the shape of the object is somewhat irrelevant other than being somewhat intriguing.


I do suspect that ETs may have visited us, however, as I said.


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post Nov 30 2007, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (JohnWho)
Once it is identified, and it is identified as "not from this world", then I'll be concerned.


I do suspect that ETs may have visited us, however, as I said.



JohnWho - I strongly suspect we have been visited and the last Telemarketer I had to calm down was an end product of one such visit.... hysterical.gif


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post Nov 30 2007, 06:33 PM
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Unidentified Flying Object: A bird you do not recognise? Flying Saucer: Something the wife might greet you with after a night with the boys.

Just how intelligent would our little green men be that take the trouble to travel a billion billion miles to get here and then hide? If they are not hiding, where are they? We have scientists listening 24/7 and we have been pumping out radiowaves at the speed of light for 100 years and more.

Taking the vast epochs of time into consideration and civilizations ability in destroying themselves swiftly, the chances of two civilisations appearing within reachable proximity of each other at the same time is so negligible as to be nigh on impossible. Undoubtedly civilizations have probably appeared and will appear again within the universe, however, the chances of a meeting of two will never occur.

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post Nov 30 2007, 08:39 PM
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Well, my opinion is that flying saucers are real, but I don't think they are extraterrestrial. I read a book that said they were designed by Nikola Tesla, but the US government didn't take him seriously. Then Werner Von Braun brought the design to the Nazis, who developed it. These were the "Foo Fighters" that WWII pilots reported. After WWII, the US got Nazi technology and scientists. So we have the Roswell incident occuring shortly after, in which the military pulls the ultimate in reverse psychology: they say its a UFO from space, then retract that statement shortly after. So of course people begin to believe it was from space, and that the government is covering it up.
Is this true? We can't know for sure with government secrecy the way it is, but it is certainly more plausible than "aliens", and so many people have sighted and photographed the same thing, I think that is probably very close to the truth.


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post Nov 30 2007, 10:02 PM
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My nephew and I saw a ufo the other night, it had a couple flashing lights and made no noise we could hear , my guess is it was something like a high flying LearJet or Gulfstream, but have no real way of knowing for sure lmfao.gif , Seriously though, I find it fascinating that most photos look similar to what flies thru the air after someone yells Pull. The Air Force Black Projects section have been doing weird test since at least the 40's, I'm fairly sure the first set of Flying Wings caused some commotion to the average citizen , untill they became better known. Lots of links to Black Aircraft (it's not a ufo site) here (button on left mid-way says "Black Projects"). Now then , that being said, who knows ? I do find it implausible that "they" could travel astronomical (pun intended) distances and not be able to hover without looking like a child's top thats about to fall over. The History or Discovery Channel had a good program(me) on Alien Technology. I like what Stanton Friedman has to say about us trying to reverse engineer alien tech, as if you could take a nuclear submarine back to Columbus's day and give it to him and tell him you want him to make 3 more crazy.gif If they do exist (I'd need to see one first, MINUS the "anal probing" ) then they are well beyond anything we can do (obviously) and if they wanted to "smoke" us they would have done so by now.
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I think the poster just about sums it up for most of us - there IS something exciting about the thought that a greater, benign, more intelligent, protective, kinder life form could be watching over us, just waiting for the right moment (??) to contact us and cure all our ills, mellow.gif ............. but I really think that the various U.F.O's of whatever shape, size or location are man-made, earth-sourced or natural in origin. huh.gif

E.T. and that lovely feel-good sci-fi film where friendly "Caspar" type e.t. 's were hatching in huge eggs (can't recall the name) have given us warm, fuzzy feelings for the idea of lovable creatures from outer space joining with us. But we really must look at the facts unemotionally - IF such entities were "out there" and looking at us helpfully/citically/pityingly/hungrily whatever, I think that mankind has demonstrated enough stupidity world-wide for them to intervene long before now! Don't you?????? w00t.gif


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Yes, quite. It seems believers in aliens have borrowed a purely Star Trek paradigm: the prime directive. For the uninitiate, I will explain that term. In Star Trek, the highest law(Prime Directive) is to not interfere with "developing" cultures. It would seem that since we haven't produced a world government and a warp drive yet, the aliens can only watch us.


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post Dec 4 2007, 05:21 AM
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When I stop and think of the infinity of space I don't see how our little biology project could be the only one to evolve.
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post Dec 4 2007, 11:35 AM
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NoOne - Did you steal that from Mulder? smile.gif I'm telling! smile.gif

I really don't think there are aliens(from other planets) allthough I am a SciFi addict. But if there are - I want to meet them as long as they don't want to eat me, implant their young in me, or take over the world.

Second thought -- they may do a better job.


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When I stop and think of the infinity of space I don't see how our little biology project could be the only one to evolve.


Yes agreed, but that does not mean any civilizations are likely to meet. As I have stated above/below, the immense scale of time, the self-destruction of civilization within very short periods of time and the infinity of space render the chances of such an encounter as extremely remote, to say the least.


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post Dec 4 2007, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Vicki @ Dec 4 2007, 11:35 AM) *
NoOne - Did you steal that from Mulder? smile.gif I'm telling! smile.gif

Good luck with that, I've had this stupid X taped to my window for years and haven't heard from him yet ..hysterical.gif


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QUOTE (The Colonel @ Dec 4 2007, 04:04 PM) *
Yes agreed, but that does not mean any civilizations are likely to meet. As I have stated above/below, the immense scale of time, the self-destruction of civilization within very short periods of time and the infinity of space render the chances of such an encounter as extremely remote, to say the least.

That would probably be true if hampered by "our" technology, while they may not break what we think are the rules of physics , I'm sure they would have found a way to bend the heck out of them smile.gif


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