Religion in USA

In the USA what a person believes in or about religion is the business of no one else in the world. What an American thinks/believes in or about government is the business of all other Americans.

Allan

I tend to agree with the first sentence; religion is a matter of conscience. I am not sure, though, about the second sentence; does this mean that others have a right to know what political views I have if I chose not to disclose it, and can they enforce that right by any means available?
Z

The first part, yes. For the second part, I'm not so sure if I agree. (McCarthyism anyone?)

If the second assertion is true, then why are ballots secret?
Z

Good responses here, thank you.

There can be no legal force forcing an American to reveal anything, especially about self.

Article of Amendment #5

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

However, in the power of citizenship citizens are one, the citizenry, and divided we fall and in unison we succeed in our Duties of Citizenship. In citizenship we are connected, our freedom from government abuse depends on our neighbor (each other). The citizenry is the other side and opposite of government.

Allan

I assume this applies to everyone of all countries and nationalities. But what are you getting at?

You assume incorrectly, read it again, the heading is “Religion in USA”. Religion in the USA does not apply to everyone in the world. Everyone in the world does not have a government constitutionally forbidden any jurisdiction in religion.

U.S. Constitution regarding religion:

Article VI

Clause 3. …; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

AND

Article of Amendment #1 (Bill of Rights)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; …

The points are Americans are free of and from government religious laws. But to maintain that freedom from government abuse Americans must in a majority be of one mind about the purpose of government and their Duty in Citizenship.

Allan

I agree. but what I meant was all countries should have the freedoms we do. But we shouldn't force our ideals on them if they don't want it. Also, why are you telling us this? Have you had some conflict somewhere regarding this?

“all countries should have the freedoms we do.”

Yes

”But we shouldn't force our ideals on them if they don't want it.

Yes

”why are you telling us this?”

So you will know the Constitution and your Duty in Citizenship.

”Have you had some conflict somewhere regarding this?”

Yes, Americans live in a criminal/unconstitutional slave state owned or controlled by a foreign country, Israel. Wake up.

Allan

Oh dear, I'm confused.

How on earth is the USA a "criminal/unconstitutional slave state owned or controlled by a foreign country, Israel"? And unless I'm wrong, the proportion of Jewish faith people in the States is very low compared to other religions?

Most people don’t look behind the screen like in the wizard of Oz. If you are really interested in finding out the truth visit my group or Google Revilo P. Oliver.

My group has links to Oliver and much more:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citizen-power/

Oliver spoke about the controllers for forty years (1960-1990) and going back in history the list grows.

You are correct about the proportion; it’s a bit less than 3% in USA. But that three percent also own Hollywood (movies), TV, and major New Media – check it out.

Allan

Are you saying that American are being brainwashed by the Jewish community through entertainment? I would hope I have stronger mental toughness to withstand a good brainwashing.

Don't listen to that toaster, I have it on good authority that it's a liar.

Allan - your observations disturb me a little, they have the odour of a simmering anti-semitism ....... is this correct? It is said that 'hardship developes character' and I have thought for some time, that the Jews of this world have been fighting hostility and repression for centuries and this has made them very strong on self preservation and spurred them on to succeed wherever possible. Ufortunately this has created a vicious circle - more success, more hostility and jealousy. Not that all successful Jews are admirable people, they have their "black sheep" as does every other racial and ethic group on earth!

Irrespective of the ownership of financial and media controls, I believe that most citizens have enough 'nous' to be aware of happening events, and enough power to register opposition to manipulation - perhaps not always successfully, but enough for the powers-that-be to pull back from any blatant abuse of people's rights. Or I would sincerely hope so...

Well said, Quietmike, because I too have no fear that the Jewish people are 'taking over'. And as Cory mentioned, most of us have little to fear from brainwashing by any group of people, thankfully.


Allan. when I clicked on the link provided ... the first message at that site says, "

(Quote) "White Racist (Americans) and proud of it.
[ - - - - ) very good broadcast this week and suggest everyone listen to it. Also, posted the URL above under "Links" at discussion group site.
... by Allan D Hampton" (Unquote).

Is that you, my any chance?

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Hi dc3 ... who/what is a toaster?

EDIT by Mara - I removed the link to the above noted broadcast

This post has been edited by Mara: Nov 29 2007, 10:51 PM