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The almighty dollar...., Following a thread of corruption in high places... |
Nov 9 2007, 11:49 PM
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Venting Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 870 Joined: 21-October 07 From: Central NSW Australia Member No.: 173 |
Having recently done a fair amount of research on "alternative" cance cures, I have been reading up on Royal Rife, Renne Caisse etc., and that led me to pick up a book called "Suppressed Inventions etc" by Brian O'Leary, Christopher Bird and other authors, which is full of extraordinary, and if true (and it seems to be), very frightening facts......
Corruption in high places, relgion, business, government etc has be with us since leaders in any field emerged, but from what I have read it seems the crassest (?) examples really began in the 1920's with the American Medical Association and the absolute persecution of Royal Rife and his eminent colleagues and their disease and cancer curing discoveries and applications. Rife and his colleagues were subjected to peer pressures, blackmail, arson, bribery, theft and it seems, murder all aimed at suppressing their incredible disoceries for the good of - initially the American Medical Association, the big pharmaceutical companies of that day - and of course since - and the many aspects of health related businesses. Anyway, my question is, in view of the firmly establshed big pharma and big health business, who make their biliions out of three or four major diseases, (for which cures have demonstrably be found in the past, and suppressed), is it possible that some brave and enterprising person or association dare risk trying to restart/redevelope those curative procedures, systerms and equipment? If this could be done, surely the billionaire drug and health companies can turn their research and expertise to the many other pressing needs in so many other health areas - there will always be broken bones, nutrition, over populaion, hereditary problems etc., which if the full might of these companies was released to work on exclusively, would surely bring about, a litereally, better world? Having put my foot in it good and proper, I look forward with some trepidation and a lot of interest to see what comments may arise! -------------------- do what you will, but harm not yourself or any other
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Nov 10 2007, 01:01 AM
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![]() Distinguished Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 570 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Home Sweet Huddleston VA Member No.: 10 |
This is fairly common in all industries. Take for example the 100 mpg carborator from the first part of the 20th century, it was bullied to death by the government and auto manufacturers because it "would hurt the economy". Same goes for the current anti F.O.S.S. movement in the US today (although we are growing due to good PR) headed by Microsoft and its flunkies.
Beyond that frankly I'm not a health junkie, if I'm sick i down a shot of whiskey and hit the hay till I feel better (have done that since I was young). Ginko is a regular part of the diet in some circles around here (and i'm talking the natural, go pick it out of the mountain yourself, stuff) I tend to follow the ways of my elders and shun almost all modern medicine, after watching the "miracles of science" kill one of my grandfathers and damned near take the other one and my father as well. No Thanks. I'll pass. Point me in the direction of the mountains or the nearest Native American Reservation (those people know something about how to cure the sick.) -------------------- ![]() Speak softly and carry a weighted baseball bat. Then people have to listen to you. |
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Nov 10 2007, 01:24 AM
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Advanced Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 328 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Troy, NH Member No.: 18 |
Any large, powerful corporation will go to whatever means necessary, even if it means spending a couple of million, to ensure future profits in the billions. But that's on the very largest scale. You can apply the same axiom to just about any level of business (scaled to fit, of course).
For example, if a clever individual invents a carburetor that will allow an automobile to run a hundred miles on a gallon of gas, the oil companies will offer him enough money to keep him wealthy for the rest of his life, and then some. What's 100 million dollars to a company that show a quarterly profit of four billion? Then, they take all of the documents concerning the device, carefully seal them in a 55 gallon drum full of concrete, and place them at the bottom of a deep ocean trench, where they'll be safe. -------------------- Lib. Free or Die
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Nov 10 2007, 01:46 AM
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![]() Vented Out ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 1,235 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Sydney Australia Member No.: 15 |
You are so right 'MattV'. I researched this very subject some months ago and it's criminal what these Big 3 do.The 3 major Auto makers,the Government and the Oil Companies. Many an Inventor has designed wonderful inventions to make us less reliant on OIL. The Inventors are given 3 options if it is deemed a threat to the Petro Dollar.
1 Sell your Designs and Patents to us for a good dollar.The major Auto manufactures then shelve the brilliant designs,so it doesn't interfere with the billions of Dollars the Oil Companies are reaping in Annually. 2 They have their Premises mysteriously burned to the ground along with all the Designs,but not before the premises are Rancacked. 3 The Inventor mysteriously dissappears,or found Dead somewhere. On the net there are so many instances where the above has happened.No doubt the same goes on in other Industries. The world is governed by the Dollar,always has been, and allways will be.IMO. -------------------- ![]() I Search for the Sjogren's Foundation,Who will you search for? I once had a life.. now I have the Internet... |
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Nov 10 2007, 09:22 AM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,155 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
The world is governed by the Dollar,always has been, and allways will be.IMO. Not the "dollar", since it's only been around for less than 250 years - money in general. After all, it is the root of all evil, don't you know? -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2007, 09:54 AM
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![]() Vented Out ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 1,235 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Sydney Australia Member No.: 15 |
Not the "dollar", since it's only been around for less than 250 years - money in general. After all, it is the root of all evil, don't you know? It was a figure of speech.I was speaking metaphorically. PM. John Who,I resent very much, you pulling my posts apart, without good reason. -------------------- ![]() I Search for the Sjogren's Foundation,Who will you search for? I once had a life.. now I have the Internet... |
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Nov 10 2007, 10:45 AM
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Advanced Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 328 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Troy, NH Member No.: 18 |
After all, it is the root of all evil, don't you know? That would be "The love of money...", I believe. -------------------- Lib. Free or Die
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Nov 10 2007, 03:03 PM
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![]() Advanced Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 5-September 07 Member No.: 38 |
QUOTE Take for example the 100 mpg carborator Do you believe thats true? Its more than just a carb thats needed to get 100mpg. Might even be impossible with a gas engine. Yes there is corruption when money is around. But there are also a lot of good people who want to help people. QUOTE 1 Sell your Designs and Patents to us for a good dollar.The major Auto manufactures then shelve the brilliant designs,so it doesn't interfere with the billions of Dollars the Oil Companies are reaping in Annually. 2 They have their Premises mysteriously burned to the ground along with all the Designs,but not before the premises are Rancacked. 3 The Inventor mysteriously dissappears,or found Dead somewhere. On the net there are so many instances where the above has happened.No doubt the same goes on in other Industries. The world is governed by the Dollar,always has been, and allways will be.IMO. Do you think they go that far? Surely someone would find them out. -------------------- "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no God'" (Psalm 14:1; 53:1)
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork" (Psalms 19:1) If you were to die today where would you go? Learn how to go to heaven today click here! Have a look at some of the videos I have made on Metacafe! -Austin Z If we are what we eat then I am fried,greasy and 99 cents.(nah I eat healthy most of the time) |
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Nov 10 2007, 04:24 PM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,155 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
That would be "The love of money...", I believe. I mostly keep my love of it platonic. Mostly. -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2007, 04:37 PM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,155 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
It was a figure of speech.I was speaking metaphorically. PM. John Who,I resent very much, you pulling my posts apart, without good reason. My point is that using "almighty dollar" as in the topic title, or dollar as in your post, might imply to some on an International board that it is an indictment specifically toward the corruption within a country that uses the dollar - mostly the US, but perhaps Canada or Australia pr to a lesser extent one of the other counties that use dollars. I'm just pointing out that this form of corruption follows the money, whatever the currency might be. -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2007, 06:05 PM
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![]() Distinguished Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 570 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Home Sweet Huddleston VA Member No.: 10 |
Do you believe thats true? Its more than just a carb thats needed to get 100mpg. Might even be impossible with a gas engine. Given that the Milage of the average Model T, Model A, 9N (tractor) Fords that was in the 20-30 mpg range it is not unfeasible. A little proof for the pudding: a Small Block Chevy V8 runs "better" (cleaner, more horsepower) at 13:1 (Fuel:Air Ratio) with 20-30 degrees of advance (every engine is different). However a new car is programmed to run at 14.7:1 with 10-15 degrees of advance (Max value). There are minor issues with the setup that could/can be fixed with a little advanced Chemistry (raise boiling point of Antifreeze, better heat transfer through cylinder walls and piston) QUOTE ('...continued from above') Yes there is corruption when money is around. But there are also a lot of good people who want to help people. Do you think they go that far? Surely someone would find them out. Have they found Jimmy Hoffa yet???? Note: do not try the timing and fuel ratio mentioned above unless you know exactly what you're doing. you will literaly "melt down" an engine with those specs unless extreme care is taken. This post has been edited by blackspyder: Nov 10 2007, 06:06 PM -------------------- ![]() Speak softly and carry a weighted baseball bat. Then people have to listen to you. |
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Nov 10 2007, 06:36 PM
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Junior Venter ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 8-November 07 Member No.: 217 |
The present leadership in this nation has not the forsight to recognise that they have just about Bankrupted this nation to line their pokets. President Bush knows what he is doing when he shoots his mouth off. He is causing oil prices to rise and hurting the average family in this nation.
It is about time that we elected leaders that would put our collective noses back iin our own country, and paid attention to our own people and economy. |
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Nov 10 2007, 08:13 PM
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Venting Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 870 Joined: 21-October 07 From: Central NSW Australia Member No.: 173 |
My point is that using "almighty dollar" as in the topic title, or dollar as in your post, might imply to some on an International board that it is an indictment specifically toward the corruption within a country that uses the dollar - mostly the US, but perhaps Canada or Australia pr to a lesser extent one of the other counties that use dollars. I'm just pointing out that this form of corruption follows the money, whatever the currency might be. JohnWho - naturaly I agree with you - the term 'almighty dollar' has just , with general usage, become the generic term that embraces the fact of "money/wealth" whatever, at least in the western society?? What is so distressing about the unethical use of the enormous power of great wealth, is that great wealth/profit could still be accrued from the development of the many suppressed 'inventions' for the good of humanity - a lot of change required of course, but taken over a planed time, quite achievable IMHO -------------------- do what you will, but harm not yourself or any other
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Nov 10 2007, 08:23 PM
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Venting Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 870 Joined: 21-October 07 From: Central NSW Australia Member No.: 173 |
On "better use of great wealth to create wealth in more beneficial way for humanity"etc., just a thought along these lines - in view of the great energy/clean renewable fuels/global warming et al -no matter what the gurus say, we still need to use the available fuels like coal (of which there is plenty for many years to come)but in a better way. Any forward looking organisation, government, investigative committee or whatever, should be re-examining the Karrick LTD process - already tried and proven in the U.S. U.K. and Australia, prior to and during WWII, but squashed because continued use would upset the oil oligarchs (check this process out on Google). The LTC process still produces some nasties, but MUCH,MUCH LESS than any current use.Put some money into improving it??
Just a thought - look it up! -------------------- do what you will, but harm not yourself or any other
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Nov 10 2007, 08:28 PM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,155 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
I can agree with that, QM.
On a global scale, the Big 3 automakers aren't all US companies nor are the Big Oil companies all US. The corruptive power of money certainly crosses all national boundaries, that's for sure. I think that there is no doubt that a company will do what is best for its bottom line, even if it isn't the best thing for the people or the environment. Big tobacco comes to mind in this regard. -------------------- |
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