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Election 2008
blackspyder
post Aug 13 2007, 08:11 PM
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With all the talk over the Democratic candidates (Obama, Hillery, Edwards, etc) I am hearing very little about the Republicans candidates. Is it because a republican almost can bet that they will not be elected next year with all the bad publicity that Bush has brought them or is it that our Media is truly left centered? I still havent picked a candidate yet and probably wont until late October of next year.


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post Aug 13 2007, 08:28 PM
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I'd say it's a lot to do with left media. Personally i can't vote for any one they offer. They have no issues. Except more taxes.
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (blackspyder @ Aug 13 2007, 09:11 PM) *
With all the talk over the Democratic candidates (Obama, Hillery, Edwards, etc) I am hearing very little about the Republicans candidates. Is it because a republican almost can bet that they will not be elected next year with all the bad publicity that Bush has brought them...


I disagree with that. In 2004, I felt that Bush would not be re-elected simply because of all the "bad publicity" that he had gotten, the anti-war sentiment, the attitude that he shouldn't have won in 2000 - especially since he didn't win a majority the votes - and many other problems. But, the Democrats nominated someone who the majority of the US felt would be even worse, and Bush won the election by the largest vote differential in history - almost 10 million votes!

The Democrats are making themselves look even worse recently, as their Democrat led Congress has an even lower rating than the President. All their "we'll make everything right if you just elect us" ranting is now coming back to haunt them as they attempt to make everything "left", and ultimately just aren't resolving anything. If they, once again, nominate a devisive, indecisive person, they may not be successful in '08 either.


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Well, there is that, too.


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I still havent picked a candidate yet and probably wont until late October of next year.


I may not wait that long, but I'm certainly not getting too excited over any of the characters on either side of the aisle right now.

Oh, I'm registered "no party affiliation", so I'm not worried that my party won't nominate the right person! laugh.gif

Don't know whether the Unity08 folks will make any difference, but I sure agree with them (from their "What we believe" statement):

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post Aug 14 2007, 01:26 PM
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The Republicans are just letting time pass. Once the Dems. have enough self-inflicted bullet wounds in their feet, the Republicans will stand up and say, "As much fun as it's been to watch those clowns, it's now time to get serious. The greatest threat to the Dems. is the Dems. cool.gif


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post Aug 14 2007, 07:41 PM
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I fear Hillary will win, simply because she is a woman.
A lot of Americans don't care what she stands for - they just want to make history happen.

I personally am leaning towards Ron Paul as of right now. I can't vote (yes, I'm a young one wink.gif), though sad.gif. The rest of the Republican candidates tend to make me very sad at what they plan on doing - not a whole heck of a lot.

I think Paul is a likely candidate to win the nomination of a party, due to his large cyber support. I, personally, think it's going to be Clinton or Obama vs. Paul or Guliani.

If Guliani gets the nomination, I would vote Democratic. He's too focused on what the terrorists did to "his city" to make me feel secure with him.

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post Aug 14 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (Glunny Wootness @ Aug 14 2007, 08:41 PM) *
I fear Hillary will win, simply because she is a woman.

Anyone that votes for a candidate based on the candidate's sex deserve Billary. Fortunately, I doubt if there are enough people that are that stupid to have a significant effect on the outcome of the election. I hope not, anyways. What it'll come down to is who can buy the most foreign criminals' votes.


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post Aug 14 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Glunny Wootness @ Aug 14 2007, 08:41 PM) *
I think Paul is a likely candidate to win the nomination of a party, due to his large cyber support. I, personally, think it's going to be Clinton or Obama vs. Paul or Guliani.

So you're predicting another Republican victory. cool.gif


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post Aug 14 2007, 10:36 PM
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personally I'd like to see John Edwards take the Dem side. The only problem is that they are all plastic. not real topics or issues just the war and taxes without a solution.


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post Aug 14 2007, 11:06 PM
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Hey MattV.

This may be a bit of a surprise considering how opposite our views are in the Faith department, but I actually agree with what you are saying in the political arena. Officially, I am a republican. Personally, I consider myself a conservative more than belonging to a political party. A very telling example of how much the Dem's are pandering to the far left was the debate they had on the LOGO channel.

Let them shoot themselves in the foot.


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post Aug 15 2007, 12:15 AM
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Can't. Stand. Hillary.

I will probably vote Republican, (especially if Hillary get the nomination), but I have no clue who I want to support right now. I do agree, however, that the Dems will eventually "shoot themselves in the foot." It may take awhile...hopefully, people will take notice and act before they vote fof Hillary.

Can you tell how I feel about her?

Postscript: Glunny Wootness, you might agree with what Chris Rock said on the opening skit of an SNL episode this past season: "...real life Guliani's kind of like a pit bull; he's great when you have a burglar, but if you don't, he just might eat your kids." tongue.gif


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post Aug 15 2007, 12:49 AM
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I would like to see Kucinch take the Dem side. Mostly because after watching the YouTube debates, my views seem to match up more with his than any other ones. Plus he's from Ohio. smile.gif


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post Aug 15 2007, 01:27 AM
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Egad...voting for the gender or the state?!? laugh.gif

As for Hilary...God help us!

I'm just tired of voting for the lessor of the two evils.
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post Aug 15 2007, 08:16 AM
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It is interesting that so many of us seem to somewhat agree with Unity08's statement.

It's appears obvious to us that the party's don't represent "we, the people", yet nothing changes.



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post Aug 15 2007, 10:15 AM
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taxation without representation.....Rings a bell ?! Been getting worse for decades,. Time for a party. Head for Boston and throw something in...maybe Ted Kennedy
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post Aug 15 2007, 04:03 PM
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I believe that may cause flooding up and down the east coast, boopme.

Otherwise, I'm there!


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