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Sen. Ted Kennedy Has Malignant Brain Tumor
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post May 20 2008, 01:13 PM
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While I don't think much of the man or his politics, I am sorry to hear this, no one deserves this disease.

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post May 20 2008, 01:27 PM
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I feel the same as you do,Vicki. He has the ability to get the absolute best treatment,when there are those amongst us, that can't afford same. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.


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post May 20 2008, 01:27 PM
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Liver and kidney damage i expected, but not brain cancer.


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post May 21 2008, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE (Vicki @ May 20 2008, 02:13 PM) *
While I don't think much of the man or his politics, I am sorry to hear this, no one deserves this disease.

Fox News Story Here


The man is dying and you preface your "sympathy" by starting with "while I don't think much about the man or his politics?" Boy, if that isn't the epitome of class I don't know what is blink.gif

No matter how much I hate Bush, and boy do I, I'd never even bring up a personal shot if he were going through this, but I've been told on this board that its my side of the political spectrum that spews the hate. Interesting how that works

Ted Kennedy has been a civil servant his ENTIRE life even though he was priviledged because thats what the Kennedy family is about, give the man some respect
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post May 21 2008, 07:12 AM
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Dear Tebow. I don't change my feelings or way of thinking about anyone depending on their health. Its the Disease I hate with a passion!

I don't like Kennedy, never will. But I've been down this road and I know where it goes. If anyone has my sympathy its his family, I know what they are going to be going through.

My post was bringing attention to the disease, as it will strike anyone. If anyone has a snowball's chance of beating it, Kennedy and his money will find away. If anything good can come from this, it would be the attention a disease gets when someone who holds high office is struck by it. Cancer took my grandmother and my son. If I hurt your feelings because of the way I posted it. I'm sorry this post was NOT a political statement. It was an attempt to bring this horrible affliction to the front. more attention - more money - more research - less cancer. Put your feelings away this is one place I can not be PC.

This subject is very close to my heart and this post was posted as a member of TV.


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post May 21 2008, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (Vicki @ May 21 2008, 08:12 AM) *
Dear Tebow. I don't change my feelings or way of thinking about anyone depending on their health. Its the Disease I hate with a passion!

I don't like Kennedy, never will. But I've been down this road and I know where it goes. If anyone has my sympathy its his family, I know what they are going to be going through.

My post was bringing attention to the disease, as it will strike anyone. If anyone has a snowball's chance of beating it, Kennedy and his money will find away. If anything good can come from this, it would be the attention a disease gets when someone who holds high office is struck by it. Cancer took my grandmother and my son. If I hurt your feelings because of the way I posted it. I'm sorry this post was NOT a political statement. It was an attempt to bring this horrible affliction to the front. more attention - more money - more research - less cancer. Put your feelings away this is one place I can not be PC.

This subject is very close to my heart and this post was posted as a member of TV.



Personally I don't think anything you said justifies the way you said it. Your feelings on Kennedy have no place in a discussion about his pending death, I'm sorry but I completely disagree
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post May 21 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Tebow4President @ May 22 2008, 03:08 AM) *
Personally I don't think anything you said justifies the way you said it. Your feelings on Kennedy have no place in a discussion about his pending death, I'm sorry but I completely disagree

Hi Tebow,Vicki, made a clear distinction, on the points in question,and has explained her reasoning, clearly. thumbup2.gif




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post May 22 2008, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE (Tebow4President @ May 21 2008, 07:33 AM) *
The man is dying and you preface your "sympathy" by starting with "while I don't think much about the man or his politics?" Boy, if that isn't the epitome of class I don't know what is blink.gif

No matter how much I hate Bush, and boy do I, I'd never even bring up a personal shot if he were going through this, but I've been told on this board that its my side of the political spectrum that spews the hate. Interesting how that works

Ted Kennedy has been a civil servant his ENTIRE life even though he was priviledged because thats what the Kennedy family is about, give the man some respect


"Class" is being able to go beyond your feelings about someone or their political standing etc. and still express your sympathy for that person and their family. I believe Vicki has shown a great deal of class. She needn't have even started the thread concerning Sen. Kennedy at all let alone express her sympathy for someone who has been struck with such a devastating disease regardless of her opinion of how he has conducted his life. "Classless" is replying with venom and rubbing salt into an already open wound by only considering the wording of her statement without even taking note of the fact that she too has had a great tragedy in her life caused by this same disease only that the way she addressed the matter was not to your liking.This,in my opinion,is terribly cold and yet she's accused of showing a lack of respect or feeling? If the "ice cube" fits, wear it.
As I recall what I've heard discussed in the news concerning Sen. Kennedy's illness is the way in which he has taken the knowledge of what has befallen him and the treatments that will most likely be necessary to try and combat the tumor. I don't recall,however, any report of his "pending death". Let's not bury him before his time.The report I just this minute heard on the news is that this type of tumor is usually fast growing and "almost" always fatal within 3 to 5 years. Note the word "almost". Treatments have been known to put into remission cancers of this type. My granddaughter was diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor at the age of 3 yrs. The tumor was inoperable and mastitized other tumors throughout the brain. This poor little thing underwent more surgeries, test,chemotherapy sessions and radiation treatments than any child should ever have to go through but the mastitized tumors were eliminated and the main tumor went dormant. It remained that way and she is 19 yrs. old now. We've had her so much longer than we would ever have expected and have been very grateful and priviledged to have her. As it turns out it has recently been discovered that the tumor is active again and the cancer has returned. What the outcome will be is in the hands of God and the doctors but I'm certainly not writing her off yet,not by a long shot and I think it's a little early to competely write off Sen. Kennedy. Perhaps it would be better if your thoughts and feelings on the news of his illness were expressed and he be kept in your thoughts,and if you are inclined,your prayers rather than putting so much importance on someone's opinion of the man with which you do not agree. Is arguing about it doing him or anyone else any good? I think not.


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post May 22 2008, 12:30 PM
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Something posted elsewhere that seems appropriate:

"One quick question... Why is it that when the 76-year-old, hard-living dissolute Democrat Ted Kennedy is diagnosed with a brain tumor, it is of course a human and national tragedy... But when the 67-year-old, clean-living Republican Dick Cheney repeatedly goes into the hospital for heart/pacemaker problems, it's a huge media-political laugh, with endless variations of "what's the prob, he doesn't HAVE a heart!, yuk, yuk" going over the airwaves non-stop for a week? Why is that? I'm just asking."

While I don't fully agree with the descriptive phrases of either person,

the point about how the media, and people, react is certainly a valid one.

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post May 22 2008, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (JohnWho @ May 22 2008, 01:30 PM) *
Something posted elsewhere that seems appropriate:

"One quick question... Why is it that when the 76-year-old, hard-living dissolute Democrat Ted Kennedy is diagnosed with a brain tumor, it is of course a human and national tragedy... But when the 67-year-old, clean-living Republican Dick Cheney repeatedly goes into the hospital for heart/pacemaker problems, it's a huge media-political laugh, with endless variations of "what's the prob, he doesn't HAVE a heart!, yuk, yuk" going over the airwaves non-stop for a week? Why is that? I'm just asking."

exactly
and what Teddy has done in his past is water under the bridge....(you know, the one by Chappaquiddick)


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post May 30 2008, 03:42 AM
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Yes I indeed remember that incident and the horrors that must have plagued the families involved when the much younger Ted was involved in that tragic car accident and the sketchy public details that were reported. Indeed there were families that suffered from that unfortunate fateful night.
I guess it is the fact of coming from a very public family that always brings people's thoughts to differing spectrums. I always look upon life and the era that we are living in and the fact that I prefer to get on with my family in a positive thinking way in spite of the fact that there maybe some "laundry" that might not be so pretty has been seen, the fact still is that the man has a family and a horrible diagnosis that hopefully will bring them together in a positive way in order that some goodness can come from this dreaded disease that has struck the remaining Patriarch of what was a family held in very high esteem.
And likely still is by many, to my family we feel we have never really known what has been the truth about the past of many members of this very large public family.
Information that comes from media sources is not necessarily reliable.
All I can say is that no one deserves to suffer a painful disease and have criticisms still directed at them. JMHO

This could very well happen to me and I certainly have not been a perfect person in my lifetime as I, and perhaps others in life have stumbled along the way and I would hope that my friends would support my family in my time of need and not focus on the "faux pas" that I have made in my many years on this planet.
Life and mankind is not perfect.
The premature loss of the young John Kennedy Jr. still is a stinging moment in my life, the younger generation lost a possible potential Presidential candidate who may have gleaned lots from his single parent upbringing by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and perhaps could have used his experiences to lead the country in a very positive direction.
Of course, this we will never know.

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