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National Health Care
Samuel
post Jan 22 2008, 11:56 PM
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An E-mail I receive from a cousin;


""""Hey Guys; I saw on the news up here in Canada where Hillary Clinton
introduced her new health care plan. Something similar to what we have
in Canada. I also heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health
care up here in Canada in his latest movie.

As your friend and someone who lives with the Canada health care plan,
I thought I would give you some facts about
this great medical plan that we have in Canada.

First of all:

1) The health care plan in Canada is not free. We pay a premium every
month of $96. For Shirley and I to be covered. Sounds great eh. What they
don't tell you is how much we pay in taxes to keep the health care system
afloat.
I am personally in the 55% tax bracket. Yes 55% of my earnings go to
taxes. A large portion of that and I am not sure of the exact amount goes
directly to health care our #1 expense.

2) I would not classify what we have as health care plan, it is more
like a health diagnosis system. You can get into to see a doctor quick enough
so he can tell you "yes indeed you are sick or you need an operation" but
now the challenge becomes getting treated or operated on. We have waiting
lists out the ying yang some as much as 2 years down the road.

3) Rather than fix what is wrong with you the usual tactic in Canada
is to prescribe drugs. Have a pain here is a drug to take- not what is
causing the pain and why. No time for checking you out because it is more
important to move as many patients thru as possible each hour for Government
re-imbursement

4) Many Canadians do not have a family Doctor.

5) Don't require emergency treatment as you may wait for hours in the
emergency room waiting for treatment.

6) Shirley's dad cut his hand on a power saw a few weeks back and it
required that his hand be put in a splint - to our surprise we had to
pay $125. for a splint because it is not covered under health care plus we
have to pay $60. for each visit for him to check it out each week.

7) Shirley's cousin was diagnosed with a heart blockage. Put on a
waiting list . Died before he could get treatment.

8) Government allots so many operations per year. When that is done no
more operations, unless you go to your local newspaper and plead your case
and embarrass the government then money suddenly appears.

9)The Government takes great pride in telling us how much more they are
increasing the funding for health care but waiting lists never get
shorter. Government just keeps throwing money at the problem but it never goes
away. But they are good at finding new ways to tax us, but they don't call it
a tax anymore it is now a user fee.

10) My mother needs an operation for a blockage in her leg but because
she is a smoker they will not do it. Despite her and my father paying into
the health care system all these years. My Mom is 80 years of age. Now
there is talk that maybe we should not treat fat and obese people either because
they are a drain on the health care system. Let me see now, what we want
in Canada is a health care system for healthy people only. That should
reduce our health care costs.

11) Forget getting a second opinion, what you see is what you get.

12) I can spend what money I have left after taxes on booze,
cigarettes, junk food and anything else that could kill me but I am not allowed by
law to spend my money on getting an operation I need because that would be
jumping the queue. I must wait my turn except if I am a hockey player
or athlete then I can get looked at right away. Go figger. Where else in
the world can you spend money to kill yourself but not allowed to spend
money to get healthy.

13) Oh did I mention that immigrants are covered automatically at tax
payer expense having never contributed a dollar to the system and pay no
premiums.

14) Oh yeh we now give free needles to drug users to try and keep them
healthy. Wouldn't want a sickly druggie breaking into your house and
stealing your things. But people with diabetes who pay into the health
care system have to pay for their needles because it is not covered by the
health care system.

I send this out not looking for sympathy but as the election looms in
the states you will be hearing more and more about universal health care
down there and the advocates will be pointing to Canada. I just want to
make sure that you hear the truth about health care up here and have some
food for thought and informed questions to ask when broached with this
subject. Step wisely and don't make the same mistakes we have."""

And there's a lot of you that want to go to "THIS""????
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unjustjohn
post Apr 8 2008, 07:02 AM
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Samuel,
I have recently seen a documentary on PBS about these very same things.
They focused on an older doctor by the name of Miller in a small town in nortern Ontario.
He has been carrying a 4,000 plus patient load for more than twenty years and is about to retire.
There are no-new doctors that will step up to take over his practice because of this large patient load, so now this remote town and the entire surrounding county is without any kind of medical services at all.
These people will have to travel over two hundred miles to the next major town to find a doctor , and they are finding that they cannot get one, because the new young doctors have refused to carry more than a 1,500 person patient load.
I personally drove to Canada two tomes a day for thirteen years. ( I'm an ex-trucker)
I once cut my arm while cranking up the dollies on a trailer.
I some how managed to cut an artery and was bleeding pretty darn good, and I had to go to a local hospital in Windsor.
I was made to wait over four hours to get stitched up!
Oh they did apply pressure to the wound while I waited, but eventually I was instructed to do this myself because of the wait. LOL
I am of the mind that we can do without National Health Care in the U.S.!
Oh by the way, I wasn't charged anything so tell you cousin Thank You for me Please!
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JohnWho
post Apr 8 2008, 07:48 AM
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So, UJJ -

the trick for you was that the health care would be free

as long as you didn't bleed to death first!


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Eric
post Apr 8 2008, 09:09 AM
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Let's see..... I have a great idea...Let's take 1/6 of the US economy and place it in the hands of the very same people who have made Social Security and Medicare the fiscally prosperous programs that they are today. Makes perfect sense to me. blink.gif


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