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Deborah Palfrey suicide? NOT!!!!!!, Nothing adds up, nothing!
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post May 6 2008, 06:29 PM
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There are some odd things that do not add up at all regarding the media reporting that Deborah killed herself!!
Well– she may not of been a household name– but many men were silent in their households about knowing her. She would of never come forward without being pushed into the front spot light, without many of those silent men needing something done with Deborah. Now, something has been done. I pray they all burn with guilt– but I doubt their stone souls will feel the heat!!
She would of NEVER done this because of facing jail time– any amount of time.
She would of NEVER done this to her Mother–! and I firmly believe that. But the ’silent men’ would of… and did. Without batting an eye. Being a child of the counter culture… and seeing many people go down this way while the public AGAIN remains silent…I just have no words except… God Love and Be With Deborah’s Mother!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4
The only remaining question is… “where is Deborah’s Little Black Book”??
I actually believe they already have it. They had to silence her voice.
All I can say again is God Bless and be with her Mother.

Nope-- don't believe any of it. None of the spin going n now. I don't even believe the 'wording.' of the so-called ’two notes’. I do know there are people that can write exactly like me and you--.and .. leave nothing behind..[that‘s their job]. and know how to clean up an entire scene. PLUS... if she was facing 6-8 years... she would be out in two!!! Meanwhile she would have MUCH to write about and MUCH to appeal. She was a much stronger woman than that. And, there is no way I believe she would of done that to her Mom. And for those out there that say " Oh yeah, she was afraid for her life so she went to her Mom's..." well-- I for one don't put it past blackop %&@!#!s but I didn't really think they would do this to her Mom too. But hell.. they did it to Jackie!! So I guess its no BFD.
Adding up facts--
Dan Moldea conveniently has a piece ready to go stating Palfry told him a year ago, she would commit suicide rather than go to jail" ready to print, when she supposedly does. I read a bit about him, he has written several books debunking conspiracy theories. But why would he wait until after she is dead to publish this? She has been on record for over a year, stating that she would not commit suicide. But she tells him secretly she would? I am not buying it.

What I don't understand, is during this time, she also stated, if she was found dead, it would be murder. She was also afraid of what would happen in prison. She stated if she died while in prison, it would be murder. She also questioned the suicide by her ex employee.

She has also led people to believe, Cheney was a client. A few reporters have outright named Cheney and a few well placed Saudis as clients. An interesting note - no libel or slander charges have been filed against them. And any attempt by MM [Murdock media] to report on the case has been shut down by the WH. Remember the ABC 20/20 minutes piece.

An attorney investigating Palfrey back in the in 2003, was found dead. The next investigator was fired by Bush in 2004, ending the investigation. The informant that started this investigation, Ed Norris, (a close friend of bernard Kirik) was hired by The Governor of Maryland. (who also has ties to Abranoff, cunningham, delay and Ney).
As far as i can tell, no one was arrested in the death of Luna. And take a wild gander, which ex-employee, was found dead by hanging, in Maryland. As a side note, Norris was indicted for using the MD Gov, protection unit to transporting call girls to several hotels in the MD/DC area.


The #1 way to commit suicide is by self inflicted gunshot wounds. (over 30%) Too bad those can be heard.
The #2 choice for women is overdose. (over 20%)Try to get a hand full of pills down a non-compliant person.
Now onto death by hanging. Only about 9% of females commit suicide by hanging.


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http://www.infowars.com/?p=1862

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/04/missing....r.ap/index.html


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post May 7 2008, 10:07 AM
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This whole situation seems a little circumspect, seeing as she knew alot of dirty little secrets of very powerful people.


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post May 7 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (Vicki @ May 7 2008, 11:07 AM) *
This whole situation seems a little circumspect, seeing as she knew alot of dirty little secrets of very powerful people.

yes it sure does! ... and given how many people around Deborah supposedly 'committed suicide'... [not]... it just is amazing to me the public just takes this crap and continues on!! heck, her first attorney was pronounced dead from suicide and he had stab wounds all over him and IN HIS BACK!! Yet--- we, the public, just go our merry way accepting the 'offical 'story'. It is this kind of crazy stuff that has driven me nutsy since the 60's!!! lol lol [ that and the fact I inhaled...lol].


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post May 9 2008, 05:05 AM
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ABC News Shielding Cheney after DC Madam Hanging?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_gu...shielding_c.htm

Florida police made public two notes handwritten by Deborah Jeane Palfrey this weekend, touching off debate on whether her hanging was in fact suicide or staged to look so. At least one reporter is claiming the DC Madam mentioned she'd kill herself before returning to prison, but another interviewer has aired recent audio of Palfrey warning that if she was found dead, it would be murder.

Initial reports of Palfrey's death conclusively ruled it a suicide, a bit hasty considering the magnitude of the sensitive secrets she held. I first heard the news on an NPR broadcast Thursday afternoon which included an official's soundbyte on how relatives are victimized in suicides, a strange generalization that pointed blame at Palfrey for hurting her own mother before any other details of the case were released. This statement was attached to the breaking news by an "imbedded pundit", only raising suspicion of media manipulation in the earliest going.

Any intelligent debate is impossible with this lack of detail available so far. We're told the letters were penned a few days before her body was discovered hanged in her mother's shed, left on a nearby motel stand, though we don't know when investigators first saw them. Police say relatives confirmed her handwriting, but we know virtually nothing about their opinion on the letters, her physical condition or other clues. We are not told whether the shed or hotel room was forensically examined. Her autopsy was conducted quietly and quickly, though a final report is due this week after toxicology results come in.

Palfrey's note used a number of clichéd expressions, strangely including "modern day lynching", referring to the extremely selective enforcement that found her guilty in federal court and a darkly ironic reference to her impending manner of death.

In the note to her sister, she writes "With complete certainty, I believe Dad is standing watch - prepared to guide me into the light". Only a close relation would know if this echoed her true feelings and beliefs, or if the statement was coded to signal a forced hand.

Among Palfrey's known clients were current Louisiana Senator Vitter, former AIDS Czar Randall Tobias, Dick Morris and military-industrial wonk Harlan Ullman, but Dick Cheney's McLean, VA phone number, reported earlier was summarily un-reported after a turnaround by ABC News.

ABC anchor Sam Donaldson has also been a rumored client, along with a law partner of Rudy Giuliani, associates of Jack Abramoff and many more Pentagon, DC and corporate insiders on a list of over 10,000 numbers.

According to early accounts, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross had the exclusive scoop because Palfrey turned over years-long call lists for his staff to verify. After Cheney turned up on the list, the story, already on the ABC website and poised to run on 20/20, suddenly went away.

No explanation has been offered as to why ABC reversed itself. Any mention of Cheney was scrubbed from their website and the 20/20 piece never ran. Vitter and Tobias had already admitted whoring, so the mainstream press continues to carry the DC Madam story without mentioning Cheney, excepting DC blogsman Wayne Madsen, who says his reporting is corroborated by multiple sources, all but daring Cheney to sue. The trial's verdict received little coverage and a scheduled Vitter was never subpoaened.

Then, going into to a weekend news cycle we heard about the hanging, presented as a suicide from the first mention with no investigation. The public was left bereft of details - was it a full autopsy and inquest? Witness statements? Did the Madam check out without leaving behind anything critical of those who hounded her? No mentions left behind about the DOJ Attorney fired after investigating her case?

So we've seen the handwritten notes, but many questions remain. Can Brian Ross (now elevated in the ABC ranks) answer the most basic inquiries about the DC Madam story that never was?

We will, if Brian Ross' can say the words "journalistic integrity" while looking in a mirror. Mr. Ross may wonder himself if Palfrey's death was self-inflicted or a torturous murder, but as long as he withholds the secrets of the ABC/DC johns, I'd wager he's safe from harm. Hint to Mr. Ross: If you need to get a message to your old journalism professors, just say "They made me sign a non-disclosure agreement".

Tarpon Springs authorities could also be instrumental in divulging to the public whether government officials commandeered or influenced their work in any way.



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post May 14 2008, 05:40 AM
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The saga continues>

9/11 Conspiracy Connection To DC Madam Murder
Palfrey told former NSA official that call girls had picked up information
Washington Post: Report May 14, 2008

Former NSA analyst and Navy intelligence officer Wayne Madsen tells the The Alex Jones Show that one of the key motives behind the DC Madam's murder may have been the information her call girls picked up from Washington's top brass concerning foreknowledge and government complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
Madsen also connected another suspicious death - that of former CIA agent Roland Carnaby who was gunned down by Houston police last week - to another individual who was involved in both the 9/11 cover-up and the D.C. Madam scandal, disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Noting that Palfrey and her defense team had tried to invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act in the U.S. District Court in Washington, which is only used when classified information or the names of people who are intelligence officers needs to be discussed, Madsen said Palfrey, "Had information which could have a bearing on the 9/11 attacks that some of her employees may have picked up information beforehand that would have been very useful to the 9/11 investigation."

Madsen added that most of Palfrey's call girls had been active around the area of McLean Virginia, which is where the CIA and other intelligence agencies are based and where Dick Cheney lived at the time.

Host Alex Jones recalled that during interviews Palfrey had told him that her escort service was in fact being used as an intelligence operation to gather intelligence on individuals who used the service, particularly those connected to the military.

Madsen, who spoke personally to Palfrey on numerous occasions, recalls one conversation at dinner about a month a go with Palfrey and her asset forfeiture lawyer where Palfrey told him, 'I have information that would have been of great interest to the 9/11 Commission - there's information that they have (her call girls) that would have been very important for the 9/11 Commission to know having to do with intelligence they picked up about 9/11 before it happened'.

The former NSA official noted that some of Palfrey's call girls were being chauffeured by Sherlington Limousines to poker parties attended by former CIA director and co-chair of the Joint 9/11 Intelligence Inquiry Porter Goss. One of the reasons cited for Goss' abrupt resignation in May 2006 was his alleged involvement in a prostitution scandal where lobbyists were holding parties for GOP lawmakers that featured hookers and gambling at the Watergate Hotel in D.C.

On the morning of 9/11, Goss was having breakfast with the head of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) General Mahmoud Ahmad, the man who ordered a wire transfer of $100,000 to alleged lead hijacker Mohammed Atta.

In addition, Madsen pointed out that Jack Abramoff, who was also connected to the DC Madam scandal, allowed at least two of the 9/11 hijackers to use one of his casino boats in the days before 9/11, and this is what Palfrey was probably referring to when she spoke about her call girls picking up information about 9/11 before it happened.

"There's the link, when you've got Abramoff and you had two of those hijackers on his casino boat a few days before 9/11 - I just wonder if that's what Jeane was talking about," said Madsen, "Because now I'm looking at this crazy incident in Houston with Roland Carnaby, a retired CIA guy who was still contracted to the CIA, being gunned down in broad daylight by the Houston police department - now I've been told by Agency sources in Houston that one of the people he was looking at was Abramhoff and the casino boats - so here you've got two people in the same week, looks like they were both assassinated in broad daylight," he concluded.

Many readers will recall that Newsweek reported that military brass in Washington received a warning the night before the 9/11 attacks which led to a September 11 flight being cancelled. "NEWSWEEK has learned that while U.S. intelligence received no specific warning, the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill," according to the September 13 2001 issue.

The connection to 9/11 is tantalizing and provides a key motive for why numerous power brokers would have wanted Palfrey to be shut up for good before she had the opportunity to release information in court that her call girls picked up about 9/11 pointing to foreknowledge and government complicity in the attacks.




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post May 14 2008, 06:36 PM
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Palfrey's Friend On Suicide Note: 'That's Not Her Signature'

Condo manager disputes authenticity of suicide notes, clear contradiction between style of letters
Paul Joseph Watson
AP May 14, 2008

The manager of an Orlando condo building where Deborah Jean Palfrey, also known as the D.C. Madam, owned a unit disputes the alleged suicide notes that were published in the media - after witnessing examples of her handwriting going back years Joe Strizack concludes, "That is not her signature."

"She could sign her signature a hundred times and it would be identical," Strizack told a local NBC news station. "That is not her signature."

"Strizack looked over the suicide notes, but he questioned if the notes were actually written by Palfrey, and if they were, he thinks they may have been written under duress," according to the report.

Strizack remains convinced that Palfrey's demeanor immediately before she allegedly took her own life betrayed no sign that she was contemplating suicide.

"Monday morning a woman tells you that she’s afraid for her life, she told me several instances where people we following her, and Thursday she’s dead," Strizack said. "What do you think? If someone would put a hit out for her and if someone wanted something done they could do it."

Strizack provided us with copies of Palfrey's handwriting from personal letters and bill payments Palfrey had sent to him (click here for images).

While the overall style is obviously similar to the alleged suicide notes, certain letters and numbers are clearly different.

A comparison between one of Palfrey's notes to Strizack shows a difference, for example, in the number "2" (which is curled in the suicide letter but not in the note) and in letters like "T."

A clear contradiction between the two styles is evident with the letter "N" in the word "Need" - which is of a different structure in the suicide note and flamboyantly curls up in comparison with Palfrey's note to Strizack where the letter is much more understated.

An independent analysis on behalf of a handwriting expert needs to be undertaken in order to ascertain whether the writing belongs to Palfrey, is an outright fraud, or shows evidence of having been written under severe duress whereby Palfrey was forced to write the notes at gunpoint, for example.

As we reported on Monday, the content of Palfrey's alleged suicide notes contradicts both her public statements and the context of her situation following her upcoming prison sentence.

Joe Strizack appeared on The Alex Jones Show yesterday and revealed that Palfrey had told him that her client list went “from the White House on down.” Palfrey told Strizack her clients consisted of “a lot of influential people” from both political parties.


http://www.jonesreport.com/article/05_08/0...ey_writing.html

[Pics of the handwriting samples at link]


Handwriting Analysis May Shed Light on Palfrey's Suspicious Death

Friend & Manager Says Palfrey 'Feared for Her Life'; Believes Behavior Before Death Disputes Hasty Suicide Ruling



A new handwriting sample [See pages 1 - 2 - 3] obtained from Palfrey's building manager, Joseph Strizack, could be instrumental in determining the cause of 'DC Madam' Deborah Jean Palfrey's suspicious death.

Strizack provided a copy of a handwritten letter Palfrey mailed him in April 2004 in hopes that a comparison with the alleged suicide letters found by authorities could shed light on the truth in what he believes was murder.

In a cursory analysis of the alleged suicide letters, it is readily apparent that the writing was done slowly, carefully and very meticulously (as one might in forging a permission letter from a parent).

A comparison between Palfrey's 2004 note shows a difference, for example, in the number "2" (which is curled in the suicide letter but not in the note) and in letters like "T." Other characters are more alike, while the overall writing style is clearly similar, and if forged, then obviously imitated.

"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," Strizack previously told WESH 2 news.

Strizack cited a conversation with Palfrey only days before her death where she told him that she 'feared for her life' had been 'followed' in the D.C. area. According to Strizack, Palfrey said she felt 'safe' at her Florida residence at Park Lake Towers because it has a closely-monitored surveillance system.

Strizack told the Alex Jones Show that Palfrey also confided that her client list went "from the White House on down," including "a lot of influential people" from both political parties. Certainly, the political weight of her client list indicates reason enough to treat her death as suspicious-- as silencing her would be a strong potential motive in the case of murder.

Palfrey stated on at least two programs, including the Alex Jones Show, that she would 'never commit suicide,' also telling Jones privately to suspect murder if she were found dead. These statements correlate with accounts from both Strizack and Palfrey's mother indicating that she was not suicidal.

While forensic analysis and comparison could prove whether or not Palfrey wrote the suicide letters, it may not rule out murder.

As Alex Jones has discussed in the past, political assassinations made to look like suicide are sometimes covered-up by forcing the victim to write a suicide note under threat of harm coming to their family.

As Paul Watson pointed out , many of the reasons indicated in the letters contradict the Palfrey's stated attitude towards her impending court case and potentially serving time in prison.

**The death toll reaches 4 ( That we know about)**
Luna - 1st to investigate Palfrey- suicide by stabbing himself 30+ times.
Britton - an employee - she hung herself
Palfrey - the Madam - she also hung herself. Suicide stats indicate that less than 10% of women commit suicide by hanging themself. So what are the odds that 2 women that know each other will commit suicide that way? I would say it is pretty slim.
Carnaby - ex CIA investigating Abranoff/ 9/11 high jacker /Palfrey connection. - Shot by Houston Police.


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