I was deeply disturbed when I read these articles. Big Brother in time will have us all Microchipped and monitor our every move,24 hrs a Day.I thought things like this were Fantasy.What is the World comming to? And there's no limit to the information that can be put on these Chips.Why are we letting a select few rule our lives? Privacy is out the window.
How does everyone else view this Technology,and are you concerned,what the future may hold as Big Brother is hell bent on running our lives? I fear for our future.I could understand it,if I was a Felon.We will end up being Robots for their gain.IMHO.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/decem...6generation.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

Can anyone say: 'Mark of the beast'?

P.S. Love the new avi image

For those who want to learn or understand the technical side of "RFID"

I was contract for awhile to a corporation that was working on RFID use on sea shipping containers.
There was and still is a lot of problems with implementing some systems.

Many people already have carried such chips around with them. Big Box stores use them. Some ID's and credit cards have them.

One just has to look around a bit and you'll learn to spot them too.

C your link makes for very interesting and informative reading. Things are getting out of hand in todays world at an alarming rate in the name of new technology and convenience that most don't realize could have some long ranging and truly invasive missues. I'm not an alarmist but the loss of some of our freedoms (some small but losses just the same) are already in place. With people looking for ever more and more convenience and ease in their lives how easy will it be for things like massive microchipping to be implimented? Like lemings headed for the cliff, people will follow the leader and flock to it if it's presented with enough BS to make it sound like the best thing since sliced bread.
Yes D, if we all take a good look we can see more and more signs of Big Brother sneaking in on us everyday and it scares the H out of me for our children and grandchildren. What kind of world are they going to have to live in? These things never occured to me when I had Maggie (avatar)implanted with an identity chip 5 years ago when we got her. It was a way of locating her if, heaven forbid, she ever disappeared from us. To implant a human with these devices to me is unthinkable and the supreme invasion of privacy short of having monitors and mics all over our homes watching and listening to our every move. I know I've mentioned it before but a reprint and new release of Orwell's 1984 wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea now. It makes you think and some of it's hits so close to what's happening today to really get your attention.

Back during the construction of Disney World , and Epcot Center, my father was a cement contracting supervisor on most of those projects.
Disney World was using cilicone implants in the hands of the work force to keep records with, and my father absolutely refused to submitt to this.
Because he had already been working on these projects for two years when they introduced this system, he was not forced to get the implant.
While the technology was neat (the workers only had to swipe their hand under a scanner to be accounted for), but the idea of having an implant that would allow anyone to keep track of me, any time, anywhere has got to be the biggest invasion of privacy to date!!!
There are many ways we loose the right to privacy just with the laws that are in place at this time, but to willing submitt ourselves to be tracked like animals is beyond comprhension to me!
I would not even back a law to track convicted felons in this manner.
And though I am not personally religious, it does remind me of that part of the bible that speaks of taking the sign of satan!!!

Really, I feel as though there is a slight backlash and overreacting involved with this new system.

If you do manage to read past the incredible bias the article poses, which is a difficult task, then you might see that this new system isn't so terrible. This is ensuring that while on duty the police officers do their job and stay safe. If this tracking system went home with them after their shift, I'd have a problem with it. I was only able to peruse the article so maybe they do track them all the time, perhaps I missed that, but if they don't, then it's no different than having a security camera on the cash register to make sure the workers don't steal from it. Obviously there must have been problems with the effeciency of this police force if they're using these measures, and considering that police officers are being paid to do their job, then this safety measure is absolutely reasonable.

What about the new Disney cell phones that can be tracked by the parents of the child? Is that an invasion of privacy?

Or the cameras in public places? They can track you through that system, can't they?

Or the vehicle safety devices that can track your car in case of theft? That's a tracking system on your private property, isn't it?

Or a half-dozen other things just like it?

People have a tendancy to assume that everything can evolve into the absolute worst it could possibly get. Try not to think of this in those terms and you'll see it for what it really is.

With new Technology,comes a downside. I have a number of concerns, and we shouldn't let the Governments we elected, continue down this path.IMO.
Firstly, This is complete control of us,once fully implimented.We are slowly surrendering all our rights, and Privacy.Don't worry if you refuse to be implanted,the Government will force you to, with threats.
Secondly,the Criminal element to the equation.We are robbed here of our life savings daily,as the Crims are fitting false fronts to our ATM machines, with scanners,and whoever uses the machine loses their savings.
Crims have Scanners here now and are stealing our pets and scanning the Micro chip.They then ring the owner,demand a large reward and charge them an extra 50 bucks as well.They say they took the pet, to the vet, to find out who owned it, when they scanned the pet themselves.Great money making Scam.
Just wondering how long,once we are microchipped,before Crims bump us off,just to steal our identity.
There are scanners now, which a person can walk past you in a crowd,and harvest the details off all your Credit Cards.
German Scientists have just cracked the code for remote Controls,so how long do you think before Crims get these scanners.
Your vehicles, Premises,Garages anything will be a target,that are remote controlled.
I am not paranoid,merely concerned at the downside to this type of modern Technology. Do we really need it?????
Wondering, whether you think the few Positives,this Tehnology brings, is all worth it.I certainly don't.
Google "Human Microchipping" and you will be surprised, how much info there is, on the subject.
Thanks, for all your opinions so far. I thought, it's a subject worth discussing.

This post has been edited by DSTM: Apr 24 2008, 11:40 AM

I find I can't quite think clearly right now, so I'll do my best to come up with logic and reasoning later, but for now:

I disagree.

I will comment on this later, hopefully.

There may be "good" reasons for microchipping everyone, and certainly our privacy is subject to all sorts of technological inroads. But there is a difference between a security camera in a private business, or a known tracking device in one's automobile, and the ability of government to track your every movement at the whim of some bureaucrat (just remember the passports of the candidates being looked at out of someone's curiosity recently, or the FBI justifying eavesdropping on innocent citizens and then justifying it AFTER THE FACT with a "finding letter" that somehow has the same authority as a court order).

After the fall of the Communist regime in Poland, literally miles and miles of files were found in which the secret police detailed all sorts of information about the private lives and actions of literally millions of people, often inaccurately or for ulterior motives. We read of the denouncements of people by their neighbors or relatives in Russia under Stalin, and the horrible excesses of the Red Guard under Mao, and tell ourselves "it can't happen here."

I would argue that we are confronted, more and more, with a critical issue of whether government and its terrible power are to be trusted, especially when there is no real check-and-balance against its current---or more to the point---future use. It is a question, moreover, whether we can rely on the integrity and morality of each and every bureaucrat or political appointee to use the vast amount of personal information that will be made available for the purposes for which it was originally designed. I see no way to prevent the potential for abuse of the kind of extensive information that has tempted people time after time in history, than to prevent their having it in the first place.

Z

I don't see the point in microchipping them. They can already see and hear what they are doing in that stupid house so I think its a waste of time and money; just like that whole show. Its absured!

I hope after this year BB gets the scrap because it should have a long time ago. But anyway thats another topic

Though there may be video cameras on every street corner, and if they were every place in the world. I would still not consider that an invasion of privacy, simply because you are in public and therefore anything you do or say CAN be used against you.
But when it comes to a mandatory condition of living here in the U.S. I will fight to the death for any goverment agency to know where I am and what I'm doing at any moment in time.
What a person does behind closed doors is their own business and having a tracking device that would enable someone to know what room you are in, well lets just say it can not be allowed.

I'm with you on this, unjustjohn. To have anybody, with complete control over you,is wrong,wrong, wrong.
Think about it. We will be no better than Cattle, who are branded for easy identification.
Hitler Branded a number on the Jews arms.
Governments are elected, by the People, for the People, and we shouldn't let them invade our privacy.
We shouldn't be like sheep, and accept every devious Law they Pass.
Time we rebelled against future Laws, which are clearly,not in our best interests.
Seems to me, no one has the Nads to speak out. They are running rough shod over all of us.

More and more, we seem to see presented many practical and useful methods to achieve goals we deem as a society to be useful, but at the same time, moral and ethical questions are left unanswered or ignored completely. As each project seems only a small encroachment into privacy and freedom, and the examples of the practical good they could do are plain and clear, few raise any objections; who could argue that privacy was more important than finding a lost two-year old who wandered away from home one night?
But for every individual benefit such programmes bring, they also carry with them, given the human nature of government, potential for major abuse in areas of living not foreseen at the time. And it is difficult to argue that sometimes a moral and ethical principle must be upheld, even if it brings with it some suffering and harm to a part of the population---especially in today's world.
Z

The best and the absolute worst that can come of anything needs to be taken into consideration before it is implemented for use,esp. where the the general populace is concerned. To not take into consideration the worst and only accept what is thought to be the best is to hide your head in the sand and think, or hope, that no one will come along and kick your behind while your heads buried there.

But to only see the absolute worst case scenario does the same thing.
I did consider the possible outcomes. But the government would never be able to microchip everyone (at least the American). There would be such a total outcry that it would literally be impossible. There are so many checks that would keep them from doing it, it can't and won't be done. Since I don't think it could possibly evolve into that situation, I'm better able to see the benefits of this particular case.