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"Honor Killings", What are your thoughts?
Vicki
post Mar 28 2008, 10:27 AM
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This is a new problem we are facing since the Muslims have spread all over the world. Young girls and women are being murdered because they don't "tow the line" with their male counterparts beliefs.

This is not just occuring in America, but in most free countries. The minorities speak of their rights being suppressed, but this is a suppression of the worst kind. These women are not safe from their own family members.

What they do in their own country, while I do not agree with it - I have no right to tell them how to live their lives. BUT, when they leave their own safe haven and come to other countries they must follow the rules of that governing country.

Is this going to turn into some kind of "don't ask don't tell", or should this be an education factor? The more these women find out that we have rights the more are going to be killed unless something is done.

The big problem is HOW do we go about it? Since it is in their "religion".


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post Mar 28 2008, 10:54 AM
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Religion has nothing to do with following the laws of the country in which they reside. I do not know of a country, at least in the West, that allows religion to excuse murder.

And I disagree with our not having a right to tell them how to live their lives in their own country, or at least encourage them to step into the modern world in which such barbarisms are understood as such. We are not telling them what food to eat, for example, but telling them that they are violating one of the most basic of human natural rights.
It seems to me that until all nations respect life, liberty, and the individual's pursuit of happiness, there will never be peace in the world.
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post Mar 28 2008, 10:30 PM
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I can see no honor in killing, I can see the necessity of it, I can understand the concept of a honorable death, but no honor in killing.
It really sickens me each time I read about a woman being abused and my first thought is always something to the effect of "Man, I wish I could have 5 minutes alone with this dirtbag". I've read with much sorrow a number of atrocity's committed against Muslim women as a religious "right", for somethings as minor as not fixing there husbands food to his liking or daring to speak with out being spoke to first. And it's not just Muslim countries, a lot of African countries perform ( even though having been outlawed) a type of female circumcision which is truly barbaric, not to mention being "sold" into marriage, sometimes as a pre-teen. What will it take for the world to stand up and say to a man abusing a woman " You touch her again , and you'll wish you died in a fire... as a child" My personal thoughts are not fit to be printed on how to deal with said countries other than to say it leans towards the "glass parking lot" option
As far as world peace goes, before you can have world peace, each country will have to come to peace with it self (as Z has said), And all I can say is Good Luck With That, especially with Sub-Saharan Africa, the Balkans, the Sino-Indian region, How Pakistan and India have kept from nuking each other is beyond me, not to mention the current Chinese crack down on Buddhist. I know of only one person that will be able to bring world peace, and things will only get alot worse before He shows back up.


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post Mar 29 2008, 09:20 AM
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What amazes me is that He has amazing patience - I would have burned this place down a long time ago!


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post Mar 31 2008, 12:43 PM
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Roger that


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post Mar 31 2008, 10:11 PM
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Vicki and NoOne I agree with you concerning HIS patience but since the large majority of the world seems to be hell bent on self distruction anyway perhaps HE's waiting to see just how big a mess we make of it all before HE steps in. Perhaps then HE will be more fully apprieciated by all.


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post Apr 8 2008, 04:37 AM
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I am on the same line of thinking when it comes to these "honor killings"
When you live in a country, then you have obligated yourself to follow that countries laws period.
I belive that you have two sets of laws.
One is His law, and the other is the laws of man.
He will deal with His laws in His time and way, but when you violate the law of man it will be dealt with in our time!
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