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Obama's "The fear vote"., You've got to be kidding! |
Jan 11 2008, 11:24 PM
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Venter ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 10-January 08 Member No.: 352 |
I am a 55 year old, that grew up in the 50's & 60s. A confirmed baby boomer, & still the largest generation of this county. We knew at a very young age that we could be obliviated by a nuclear attack from Russia. In fact, every 1st Friday of the month, exactly at noon, the air-raid sirens would blast, we, (me as a 1st grader would hit the floor under our school desks), in order to practice in case of a nuclear attack between the United States & Russia. "Kind of like a fire drill today in school, only much scarier". Bomb selters were built. I remember as very young girl playing in my next door neighbors bomb shelter, with canned food, enough to last for months.
As I grew up, the air-raid sirens eventually turned out to be tornado warnings, as Russia & the U.S made a nuclear arms agreement. After all the ducking under desks, I finally witnessed the moment that I inadvertantly schooled for. 9/11-- I was 48 years old then. I saw 2 of our largest, most notable buildings come down with 3000 Americans lives in them. I was enraged, & depressed until President Bush stood upon a pile of rubble & said he was going after the "people who took those buildings down". I'll never forget that, & I will tell this story to my grandchildren until the day I die. We know that we are in a fight against "world-wide" Islamic terrorists. They have no country. They are rebels against freedom & humanity. They come in the dark, & in secrecy. There will be no surrendor, they have no country. "They will always attack at the least path of resistance." Obama--states: Don't cast the fear vote! I say to Obama: If you have no fear of terrorism, step aside, & let someone who does run this county. To this Board: Is Senator Obama ready to be the Commander & Chief of this county? Your thoughts? This post has been edited by Orea: Jan 12 2008, 01:13 AM |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:09 AM
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Distinguished Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 8-January 08 Member No.: 346 |
I am a 55 year old, that grew up in the 50's & 60s. A confirmed baby boomer, & still the largest generation of this county. We knew at a very young age that we could be obliviated by a nuclear attack from Russia. In fact, every 1st Friday of the month, exactly at noon, the air-raid sirens would blast, we, (me as a 1st grader would hit the floor under our school desks), in order to practice in case of a nuclear attack between the United States & Russia. "Kind of like a fire drill today in school, only much scarier". Bomb selters were built. I remember as very young girl playing in my next door neighbors bomb shelter, with canned food, enough to last for months. As I grew up, the air-raid sirens eventually turned out to be tornado warnings, as Russia & the U.S made a nuclear arms agreement. After all the ducking under desks, I finally witnessed the moment. I was 48 years old at the time. I saw 2 of our largest, most notable buildings come down with 3000 Americans lives in them. I was enraged, & depressed until President Bush stood upon a pile of rubble & said he was going after the "people who took those buildings down". I'll never forget that, & I will tell this story to my grandchildren until the day I die. We know that we are in a fight against "world-wide" Islamic terrorists. They have no country. They are rebels against freedom & humanity. They come in the dark, & in secrecy. There will be no surrendor, they have no country. "They will always attack at the least path of resistance." Obama--states: Don't cast the fear vote! My statement to Senator Obama is: The only thing we "baby boomers" fear, is your ability to protect our children & grandchildren from terrorists. If you do not have the"fear" over a terrorist attack within you, please step aside, & let someone who does. Is Senator Obama ready to be the Commander & Chief of this county? Amen, Brother. I'm 61 and from the same era as you, ducking under the desks and all. I have watched the Muslim attacks against the U.S. since 1968 and, I for one, am sick and tired of having leaders that refused to answer back. When the Japanese attacked and sank the USS Panay on 12 December, 1937, and we gave no response except, "I'm Mad", the Japanese decided that America would NEVER retaliate which embolden them to make the attack upon Pearl Harbor. The same thing has happened again. The Muslims have repeatedly attack the U.S. for the last 40 years and Bush finally attacked back and now we have the Dems wanting to cut and run??? Warning, the peice will be much higher down the road just as it was in the Pacific from 1941 to 1945. |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:50 AM
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I'm not a "boomer". I have a couple years ahead of you both. Tet '68, Israeli conflicts....
Google > 23 Oct, 1983, been there, survived. And a few other places too. My point is: Clinton's don't and never have cut it. Mr. Obama doesn't cut it either. He's a Liar pure and simple? 1- U. S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama 2- Born in Honolulu , Hawaii Father: Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya; Mother: Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii .. When Obama was two Years old, his parents divorced. Father: Returned to Kenya .. Mother: Married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia . 3- When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia .. 4- Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta . He also spent two years In a Catholic school. 5- Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim . He Is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." 6- Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this Influence was temporary. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon After the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over His son's Education. 7- Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, Introduced his stepson to Islam . 8- Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the Radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now Waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking Major Public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. Check this out on Snopes? Or phone him? -------------------- The only easy day was yesterday....
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Jan 12 2008, 09:18 AM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,159 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
Check this out on Snopes? OK, I will, and did - Snioes - "Who is Barack Obama" Snopes' seems to paint a different, or at least more complete, picture than the information above. QUOTE My point is: Clinton's don't and never have cut it. I agree with that. -------------------- |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:36 AM
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Venting Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 954 Joined: 13-October 07 From: Erin TN Member No.: 158 |
One more thing that worries me about Obama is his family connection to Kenya - with their problems where is his mind set going to be? Here? Wolf in sheep's clothing?
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Jan 12 2008, 11:30 AM
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JohnWho understands where I was coming from or leading others to.
I ask questions and wait for responses. I am not an Obama backer though it might appear as such with my post above. Just go out and Vote! -------------------- The only easy day was yesterday....
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Jan 12 2008, 11:58 AM
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![]() Vented Out ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 1,406 Joined: 10-August 07 From: USA Member No.: 8 |
The Constitution plainly says that there shall be no religious test for holding office.
Z -------------------- Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.
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Jan 12 2008, 02:51 PM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,159 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
...test for holding office. Whoa! Now there's and idea! I can see it now - not only a test but a program entitled "We shall leave no President behind"! -------------------- |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:55 PM
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Venter ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 24-November 07 From: Missouri, USA Member No.: 242 |
OK, I will, and did - Snioes - "Who is Barack Obama" Snopes' seems to paint a different, or at least more complete, picture than the information above. I agree with that. Good Day JohnWho, Thank you. I agree with the writer, I guess people probably are banking on people not visiting the site to read for themselves. Respectfully Jo4peace |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:15 PM
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![]() Who's your Daddy? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,159 Joined: 13-August 07 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 11 |
...I guess people probably are banking on people not visiting the site to read for themselves. Yep - it's part of the "if it is on the Internet it must be true mentality". In this case, just saying "Snopes says" is convincing enough, even though "Snopes didn't say". -------------------- |
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Jan 13 2008, 07:01 PM
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I was listening to the news on the radio the other day and there was a sound bite of Obama's grandmother in Kenya. They quoted her as saying she hoped that her grandson was elected President of the US so that he could bring prosperity to Kenya. Uh....grandma....If he were to be elected, it would be of the US, not Kenya...
Not even elected and they already have their hand out.... -------------------- The Constitution was not intended to limit the power of the people. It was intended to limit the power of the government.
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Jan 15 2008, 02:43 PM
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Advanced Venter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 19-December 07 Member No.: 302 |
I was listening to the news on the radio the other day and there was a sound bite of Obama's grandmother in Kenya. They quoted her as saying she hoped that her grandson was elected President of the US so that he could bring prosperity to Kenya. Uh....grandma....If he were to be elected, it would be of the US, not Kenya... Not even elected and they already have their hand out.... Yea and Im sure Haliburton wasn't thinkin the same thing when Bush/Cheney got elected? |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:07 AM
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Junior Venter ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Colorado Member No.: 366 |
Mr. Obama doesn't cut it either. He's a Liar pure and simple?
Check this out on Snopes? [/quote] First of all, I checked out this site and all the information you presented came from an email which floated around for a while and that people were able to forward to others. Snopes did not provide a source for this email which immediately leads me to assume that this is not a valid source of information. Second, Snopes then proceeds in an article which discusses the claims about Obama and provides evidence that many of the claims have been altered by the author of the email. It also provides insight into the real story of his backround. The moral of the story? Don't get information from an invalid source. |
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Jan 29 2008, 11:19 AM
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Venter ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 10-January 08 Member No.: 352 |
I'm not a "boomer". I have a couple years ahead of you both. Tet '68, Israeli conflicts.... Google > 23 Oct, 1983, been there, survived. And a few other places too. My point is: Clinton's don't and never have cut it. Mr. Obama doesn't cut it either. He's a Liar pure and simple? 1- U. S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama 2- Born in Honolulu , Hawaii Father: Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya; Mother: Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii .. When Obama was two Years old, his parents divorced. Father: Returned to Kenya .. Mother: Married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia . 3- When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia .. 4- Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta . He also spent two years In a Catholic school. 5- Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim . He Is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." 6- Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this Influence was temporary. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon After the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over His son's Education. 7- Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, Introduced his stepson to Islam . 8- Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the Radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now Waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking Major Public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. Check this out on Snopes? Or phone him? I have a real problem with your statement: "The Clinton's have never cut & run"? In the first place, I blame President Clinton for not responding to Bin Laden. We were attacked on 4 different occasions by Al Queda on Bill Clintons watch. Some of which were horrific. Bill Clinton had several shots at Bin Laden, & for one reason or another didn't take them. Bin Laden was not hiding in caves at the time, he was out in plain view. At one time, a country had captured Bin Laden, & offered him up to Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did not take him in, because it was "against" some extradition laws. Of all the laws that Bill Clinton did break, this certainly should have been one of them. The only real attempt to get Bin Laden, was derailed by then, national security advisor, Madeline Albright, who insisted that Pakistan be warned before the missles hit. Of course, sympathisers within the Pakistani government, warned Bin Laden, & he cut & ran 1/2 hour before the missles hit. During the last democrat debate, Obama & Hillary both stated they would pre-warn Pakistan on any attempted hit on Bin Laden. "Do they ever learn"? Hillary, in the last democrat debate was asked: Would you rather win in Iraq, or leave Iraq? Her reply was to leave Iraq. This in the face, that the surge is working. She would be the first President in the history of the United States that would walk away from certain victory, giving terrorists an unimaginable victory over the United States--that would be heard & trumpeted by every terrorist & terrorist organization around the world. Al Queda attacked us on 9/11, because they believed we would not respond in the manner in which we did. Several captured Al Queda have stated that. They had 3 country choices for their grand attack. One was Russia, another country I cannot remember & the United States. They choze the United States for a reason. The reason: "A terrorist will always seek the least path of resistance". This post has been edited by Orea: Jan 29 2008, 11:20 AM |
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Jan 29 2008, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE I have a real problem with your statement: "The Clinton's have never cut & run"? I didn't say the above. What I said was QUOTE My point is: Clinton's don't and never have cut it. I agree entirely with your position above Orea. -------------------- The only easy day was yesterday....
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